Monday, January 19, 2009

Israeli teenagers are a nuisance in Poland

Israeli teenagers are a nuisance in Poland
11 05 2007

Source: Przekrój weekly of May the 10th 2007
Link to original article in Polish
Author: Anna Szulc
English translation: MoPoPressReview
The list of losses Israeli teenagers’ visits leave behind is long and costly. It begins with burned carpets in Polish hotels, and ends with Jewish teenagers’ trauma. But more and more often with local residents’ trauma too.

Roberto Lucchesini, originally from Tuscany, for several years now a resident of Krakow, hasn’t been sleeping well recently. Before he will be able to move his arms normally again, he will have to go through long rehab. All this because of how he was treated, in broad daylight in front of passers-by and several teenagers who were hermetically closed in their coach-buses. Israeli bodyguards, equipped with firearms, binded his arms behind his back over his head with handcuffs. In Krakow, in the middle of the street. A moment before, the Italian was trying to make coach drivers parking in front of his house turn their engines off. - ‘Israelis handcuffed me, threw me on the ground, my face landed in dog excrement, and then they were kicking me’. After that the perpetrators were gone. Italian had to be freed by the Polish police.

Lucchesini moved to Kazimierz, a district of Kraków, that used to be a Jewish commune of which the only things left now are synagogues and memories, often painful. He found an apartment with a view on the synagogue. - ‘Back then I had thought this was the most beautiful place on Earth’ - he says - ‘after some time I understood that the place is indeed beautiful, but not for its today’s residents’.

Kicking instead of answers

Jews search tourist

Other resident of Kazimierz, Beata W., office worker is of similar opinion. Israeli security searched her handbag on one of the streets, without telling her why.
- ‘When I asked what was this all about, they told me to shut up. I listened, I stopped talking, I was afraid they’d tell me to get undressed next’ - she says annoyed.
A young polish Jew, who as usual in Sabbath, went to pray in his synagogue couple months ago, also didn’t get his answer. He only asked, why can’t he enter the temple. Instead of an answer, he got kicked.
- ‘I saw this with my own eyes’ - says Mike Urbaniak, the editor of Forum Of Polish Jews and correspondent of European Jewish Press in Poland. - ‘I saw how my friend is being brutally attacked by security agents from Israel, without any reason.’

All this apparently in sake of Israeli childrens’ safety.
- ‘For Poles it may be difficult to understand, but security agents accompany Israelis at all times, both in Israel and abroad’ - explains Michał Sobelman, a spokesman for Israeli embassy in Poland. - ‘This is a parents’ demand, otherwise they wouldn’t agree for any kind of trip. Poland is no exception.’

But it was in Poland, as Mike Urbaniak reports, where Jews from Israel brutally kicked a Polish Jew in front of a synagogue, and then threatened him with prison. In plain view of the Israeli teenagers.

- ‘We are very sorry when we hear about such incidents’ - Sobelman admits - ‘Detailed analysis is carried out in each case. We will do everything we can, to prevent such situations in the future. Maybe we will have to change training methods of our security agents, so that they would know Poland is not like Israel, that the scale of threats here is insignificant?

Professor Moshe Zimmermann, head of German History Institute at Hebrew University in Jerusalem thinks however, that the problem is not only in the security agents’ behaviour. He thinks Israelis basically think that Poles aren’t equal partners for them. And it’s not only that they think Poles can’t ensure their children’s safety.

- ‘They are not equal partners to any kind of discussion. It applies also to our common history, contemporary history and politics. In result Israeli youth see Poles as second category people, as potential enemies’ - he explains bluntly.

An instruction on conduct with the local inhabitants given away to Israeli teenagers coming to Poland couple years ago may confirm professor’s opinion. It contained such a paragraph: ‘Everywhere we will be surrounded by Poles. We will hate them because of their participation in Holocaust’.

Jews hate Poles

- ‘Agendas of our teenagers’ trips to Poland are set in advance by the Israeli government, and are not flexible’ - says Ilona Dworak-Cousin, the chairwoman of the Polish-Israeli Friendship Association in Israel. - ‘Those trips basically come down to visiting, one by one, the places of extermination of Jews. From that perspective Poland is just a huge Jewish graveyard. And nothing more. Meeting living people, for those who organise these trips, is meaningless.’

A resident of Kraków’s Kazimierz district, who is of Jewish descent, says that there is nothing wrong with that: - ‘Israelis don’t come to Poland for holiday. Their aim is to see the sites of Shoah and listen to the terrifying history of their families, history that often is not told to them by their grandparents, because of its emotional weight. Often young people who are leaving, cry, phone their parents and say “why didn’t you tell me it was that horrible?”. To be frank, I am not surprised they have no interest in talking about Lajkonik‘.

However according to Ilona Dworak-Cousin the lack of contact with Poles, causes Israeli youth to confuse victims with the perpetrators. - ‘They start to think it were the Poles who created concentration camps for Jews, that it is the Polish who were and still are the biggest anti-Semites in the world’ - adds Dworak-Cousin, who is Jewish herself.

The above mentioned Kraków resident has a different opinion. - ‘I don’t believe anyone was telling them that the Poles had been doing this. That’s why there is no need for discussing anything with the Poles’.

Teenagers behaving badly

However, many Israelis say that although the instruction was eventually changed, the attitude to Poles has not changed at all.
- ‘Someone in Israel some day decided, that our children going to Poland have to be hermetically surrounded by security’ - says Lili Haber president of Cracovians Association in Israel. - ‘Someone decided that young Israelis cannot meet young Poles, and cannot walk the streets. Basically these visits aren’t anything else but a several-day-long voluntary prison.’

RIch brat jews

Voluntary, but also very expensive: 1400 USD per person. Not every Israeli parent can afford such a trip.

- ‘Moreover, as it turns out, the children are too young, to visit sites of mass murders’ - adds dr Ilona Dworak-Cousin. Traumatic experiences that accompany visits in death camps have its consequences. Kids become aggressive. And instead of getting to know the country of their ancestors, in which Jews and Poles lived in symbiosis for over 1000 years, Israeli teenagers cause one scandal after another.

Shitting in beds

It happens sometimes, that somewhere between Majdanek and Treblinka, young Israelis spend their time on striptease ordered via the hotel telephone. It happens sometimes, that the hotel service has to collect human excrement from hotel beds and washbasins. It happens sometimes, that hotels have to give money back to other tourists, who cannot sleep because Israeli kids decided to play football in hotel corridor. In the middle of the night.

Jews block streets

6-year-old Krzys from Kazimierz played football too. On Sunday night on 15th April, after shooting two goals, he wanted to go home, as usual. He lives near a synagogue, in front of which hundreds of young Israelis have gathered on celebrations preceding March of Living. Just before Szeroka street he was stopped by some not-so-nice men. - ‘This is a semi-private area today. There is no entry’ - he was told. It didn’t help, when he told them, his mum will get upset if he won’t be home on time.

Security officers, which is interesting, were Polish this time and accompanied by the Polish police. They also denied access to the area to a Dutch couple, who had reserved a table at one of the restaurants on Szeroka street six months ago. - ‘Is this a free country?’ - One of the tourists tried to make sure.


On a normal day you can access Szeroka street from several sides. That evening from none. I tried to get through myself, without any success. Only eventually, the police helped me to pass the security line.

- ‘There are no official restrictions here’ - they were convincing me a moment later, although the “unofficial practice” was different.

- ‘We have only set certain restrictions in movement’ - Sylvia Bober-Jasnoch, a spokeswoman for Malopolska Region Police press service, explained to me later.

The police cannot say anything else. Polish law does not allow residents to be denied access to the streets they live at. Even during the so called mass events (however the celebrations on Szeroka did not have that status) residents have the right to go back to their homes and tourists have the right to dine in a restaurant. Also Israeli security agents have no right to stop or search passers-by.

I tried to find out more on the rights of Israeli security agents in Poland. First at the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, from where my question was sent to…. the Ministry of Education. I have also sent questions to the Home Office. Although I was promised, I received no answer. Only person eager to talk on that matter was Maciej Kozłowski, former ambassador in Israel, currently the Plenipotentiary of the Minister of Foreign Affairs for Polish-Israeli relations.

- ‘Regulations are imprecise’ - admits Kozłowski. ‘Basically bodyguards from a foreign country should not move around Poland armed. However for the government of Israel security matters are a priority. Any convincing that their citizens should use the services of Polish security turned unsuccessful’.

Airplane like battle field

The Polish-Italian couple, Robert Lucchesini, his wife Anna, and their two-year-old daughter, cannot understand Polish government’s attitude. Which contrary to the Israeli government, is not able to ensure the safety of its citizens. Safety is not the only thing among the pair’s priorities, but also peace and quietness. They are however being woken up every morning by the loud noises of engines, of the Polish coach-buses with groups of Israeli youth. Their Polish drivers brake driving regulations all the time. They’re allowed to park at the square near the synagogue (in front of Robert’s house) only for up to 10 minutes. They stay there much longer, even hours. With their engines turned on. Reason? Youth’s safety - they would be able to leave quicker in case of a threat. And because Israeli kids need to be served coffee. Because even though Kazimierz is full of cafes, Israeli teenagers don’t go there. They are being told: no contacts with environment, no talking to passers-by, no smiles nor gestures.

This has been going for years. Israeli groups contact with Poles only there where they have to. First in airplanes.

Slapped stewardess

- ‘A plane after such group has landed, looks like a battle field’ - admits a worker of LOT Polish Airlines asking for his name not to be published. - ‘The worst thing is these kids’ attitude to Polish staff. Recently a stewardess was slapped by a teenager in her face. Because he had been waiting for his coca-cola too long’.

Leszek Chorzewski, LOT spokesman, admits that Israeli youth is a difficult customer. - ‘They demand not only more attention then other passengers, but also more security precautions’ - he adds. These precautions are long aircraft and airport controls conducted by Israeli services. These are also the high demands of the teenagers’ security agents.

Katarzyna Łazuga, student from Poznań, could see that first hand. She participated in a tourist guides’ training on one of Polish airports. ‘Young people from Israel entered the room we were in’, she recalls. - ‘Our group was then made to stop classes and rushed out of the room. Israeli security officers told us to go out, right now and without any talking. Because… we were “staring” at their clients. Yes, we were looking at them. They were catching attention, they were good looking.’

Young Israelis see Poles also there, where they board - in Polish hotels. If any of them still wants to have them. Most of those in Kraków don’t want to any more.


- ‘We have resigned from admitting Israeli youth once and for all’ - admits Agnieszka Tomczyk, assistant manageress in a chain of hotels called System. ‘We could not afford to refund the loses after their stays any more’.

Shiting in beds

These loses being: demolished rooms, broken chairs and tables, human excrements in washbasins or trash bins, or like in Astoria, other hotel in Kraków, burned carpet. Astoria also backs out from having Israeli groups. One of the reasons is that the teenagers’ security agents were ordering other guests, whom they didn’t like, to leave.

- ‘I understand that Israeli security agents are over-sensitive to any disturbing signals. They are coming from a country where bombs explode almost daily, and young people die in terrorist attacks’ - ensures Mike Urbaniak. - ‘But Poland is one of the safest countries in Europe. Here, excluding tiny number of incidents, Jews are not being attacked, and Jewish institutions don’t need security, which is very unusual on a world scale’.

Huge business

Chasidim, travelling in great numbers from Israel, also (surprisingly) don’t need security agents. Including for example many Orthodox Jews, who came to visit our country recently, as they wanted to pray at Tzadik of Lelów’s grave. They came to the market square in Kazimierz without any security assistance and without any fear.

- ‘They chatted eagerly with tourists interested in their outfits, with passers-by who don’t see Jews with side curls every day’ - adds Urbaniak.

In Kazimierz chasidim are nothing unusual. Like groups of Israeli teenagers. This year 30,000 Israeli teenagers are coming to Poland, and they will have 800 security agents to protect them.

Roberto Lucchesini reported to the Polish police that he got beaten by Israeli security. Krakow Prosecution Office is investigating the case, and so is its counterpart in Israel.

- ‘Results of this investigation are of medium importance’ - thinks Ilona Dworak-Cousin. - ‘What matters is if the youth that visits Poland, will still treat it as hostile and completely alien country’.

Polish-Israeli Friendship Association in Israel and Cracovians Association in Israel both try to convince the government of their country, not to send any more teenagers to see only the death camps in Poland. Chances are slim.

- ‘These trips are mostly a huge business for people who organise them’ - says Lili Haber - ‘including Israeli bodyguards’.

6 comments:

Dr. Dan said...

Israel is an IMMANENT THREAT to Humanity. Israel is armed with every WMD known to man including 2-400 secret Nuclear warheads built with material STOLEN from America. Israel is insane from 3,500 years of "biblically mandated" inbreeding, Israel Threatens LIFE on Earth. Israel believes they are the "Chosen People of GOD". That belief alone should be a warning flag to any NON-Jew. Jews believe that to BE a Jew, The parents must BOTH be Jewish, the mother determines that one IS a Jew, the father determines which "tribe" one belongs to. They INVENTED "Eugenics"......."This belief has led to mental illness from inbreeding. These people now are engaging in GENOCIDE and declaring it to be "justified" under THEIR religious beliefs. Today, Gaza, tomorrow they NUKE Europe !? Israel is engaging in War Crimes and Aggressive War against non-Jews, whom they denigrate and DEHUMANIZE as GENTILES, GOYIM, SISHKAS.
Israel allied with APARTHEID South Africa, trading weapons and torture techniques with those "supremists", when the CIVILIZED world shunned them. Now Israel has allied with the DEATH CULTISTS of the "Rapture". They call themselves "Christian/Zionists" which is an oxymoron, you CANNOT be Christian/ANTI-Christian at the same time. These "rapture" Prophets for PROFIT are ANTI-Christ DEATH CULTISTS. God/Jesus placed you in this LIFE to learn "soul lessons", to increase your consciousness to the point of Redemption. These JUDAS GOATS REJECT the LIFE God gave you, and dangle a False Path in front of people, just as SATAN dangled Temptation in front of Jesus. Do not follow the ANTI-Christ lies of FALSE prophets. Their "shortcut" of cheating God's lessons does NOT lead to Heaven, any more than cheating on school work teaches you the subject.
Rapture belief should also be considered a sign of if not an actual mental illness. The believer is not only rejecting reality, they are rejecting LIFE.
Recognize it as the DEATH CULT that it is, and keep the believer from any position of power or authority, as their "ANTI life outlook" is inimical to God Given Life..
----------------------------------------------------
May 30, 2007 21:24
All civilians living in Gaza are collectively guilty for Kassam attacks on Sderot, former Sephardi chief rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu has written in a letter to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. Eliyahu ruled that there was absolutely no moral prohibition against the indiscriminate killing of civilians during a potential massive military offensive on Gaza aimed at stopping the rocket launchings.
"No moral prohibition against the indiscriminate killing of civilians"
Isn't this the definition of terrorism?
One Israeli settler leader recently argued during a conversation with a visiting American peace activist that 'if it was right to commit genocide during Biblical time, why can’t it be right to commit genocide now. Has God changed his mind,' the settler wondered sarcastically."
--------------------------------------------------
April 10, 2008
"All of the Palestinians must be killed; men, women, infants, and even their beasts." This was the religious opinion issued one week ago by Rabbi Yisrael Rosen, director of the Tsomet Institute, a long-established religious institute attended by students and soldiers in the Israeli settlements of the West Bank. In an article published by numerous religious Israeli newspapers two weeks ago and run by the liberal Haaretz on 26 March, Rosen asserted that there is evidence in the Torah to justify this stand.
----------------------------------------------------
March 2000
Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of Chabad-Lubavitch.
“The difference between a Jewish and a non-Jewish person stems from the common expression: ‘Let us differentiate.’ Thus, we do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a superior level. Rather, we have case of ‘let us differentiate’ between totally different species. This is what needs to be said about the body: the body of a Jewish person is of a totally different quality from the body of (members) of all nations of the world… A non-Jew’s entire reality is only vanity. The entire creation (of a non-Jew) exists only for the sake of the Jews.”

Dr. Dan said...

For over Sixty years the World has been "guilt tripped" and milked of "reparations" by the SAME people who invented the very crimes of which they complain. Now they piously proclaim their desire for "peace, peace", as they parade these rules around their places of worship, and KISS the scrolls on which these odious "rules" are codified.
It was the Israelites that introduced to the world, and codified in their religion, Bigotry, Genocide, everything CRIMINAL that they now condemn in the Nazis
The Nazis called themselves "superior" people. The CHOSEN People of GOD do not like the competition.
The Nazis stole property from their victims.
Aside from stealing ALL of Palestine, as well documented in the Torah(the 1st 5 books of the Bible) "for a place to live",
which they are repeating today, and the Nazis copied and called "growth room" how about ........
STEAL FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS:
Exodus c.3 v.22
Exodus c.11 v.2
Exodus c.12 v.35-36 (obviously "Thou SHALT NOT STEAL" does not apply to NON-Jews.)

The Nazis killed their own crippled and crazy.
KILL THE SICK and CRIPPLED
Numbers c.5 v.2-4 "putting them out of camp" means go die in the desert

The Nazis killed homosexuals and sexual "deviants" ..............
KILL HOMOSEXUALS AND SEXUAL DIVIANTS
Leviticus c.20 v.13 well, really the whole chapter

The Nazis killed those who dissented from the "party line" .................
KILL ALL DISSIDENTS:
Exodus c.32 v.27
Numbers c.11 v.1-2
Numbers c.16 all
Numbers c.21 v.5-6
Numbers v.26 v.10

The Nazis held themselves apart from other people...................
NO "diversity", NO "integration":
Numbers v25 v.4-8
Deuteronomy c.14 v.2

The jews complain that Nazis demonized those they did not like, calling them perverts, parasites, unclean .....
The Jews today call YOU "Gentile, GOYIM, Shiska" pejorative names equal to "the 'N'" word.
Demonizing, DEHUMANIZATION, is commonly used in order to justify killing people.
The entire Torah/Books of Moses is a dehumanization of all NON-israelites.
Accusing others of deviant sexuality, unclean practices, worshiping the "wrong" god, eating the "wrong" food.
HATE codified in the Bible.

FINALLY, the BIG evil ...........
The Nazis engaged in GENOCIDE, deliberately killing men, women and children... because of their difference:
After DEhumanizing the Native People of Palestine, the Israelites introduced GENOCIDE to the World:
Numbers c.21 v.03 Canaanites
Numbers c.21 v.24 Amorites
Numbers c.21 v.33 Bashan
Numbers c.31 all Midianites
Numbers c.32 v. more Amorites
Deuteronomy c.2 v.34 People of Heshbon
Deuteronomy c.3 v.6 really the whole chapter. threescore cities
Joshua c.12 A list of victims of Israeli GENOCIDE
Where are THEIR "holocaust" Memorials!


Genocide codified in their religion:
Numbers c.33 v.31-34
Deuteronomy c.7 v.2
Deuteronomy c.12 v.28-30
Deuteronomy c.20 v.11-16

Terrorism codified in their religion:
Deuteronomy c.2 v.2
Deuteronomy c.7 v.16

BURNING FLESH is "A sweet savor unto the Lord" - JUST A FEW of MANY MANY examples
Exodus c.29 v.18, 25, 41&42
Leviticus c.1 v.17
Leviticus c.2 v.2&&9&12
Leviticus c.3 v.5

Now some will say "Oh, the Bible is not FACT, it is allegory or whatever."
To which I answer, FINE, then so is the portion where God supposedly "gave" Israel the land of Palestine.
You cannot deny one verse, then use the next verse as justification to murder and steal land from People.

For millenia the Jews have WAILED about their abject slavery under "Torturous, Inhumane"
conditions in Egypt. As a matter of fact, their wailing is the same as their wailing
about the "Torturous, Inhumane" treatment by the Nazis.
How is it that "impoverished, abject slaves" have lambs to slaughter, flocks and herds?
Exodus c.12 v.21
Exodus c.12 v.32&38
Exodus c.35 v.22-23
How is it that "abject impoverished slaves" have neighbors with GOLD and SILVER and JEWELS to LOAN to these "slaves"
Exodus c.3 v.22
Exodus c.11 v.2
Exodus c.12 v.35-36

Dr. Dan said...

P.S. Where are the REPARATIONS !? The jews are always demanding reparations ....... PAY THEM you SHYLOCKS!

Dr. Dan said...

Do you know why Jews cannot eat PIG?
Because it would be ..........
C-A-N-N-I-B-A-L-I-S-M.

Thomas Mc. said...

Israel is the New NAZI GERMANY!

Lech Alex Bajan said...

W Polsce Żydów nie wypada krytykować. Krytykować można Romów, Ukraińców,Niemców, Arabow.


W Polsce Żydów nie wypada krytykować, można narazić się tym, nie tylko środowiskom żydowskim, ale i mediom. Można za to do woli krytykować inne narodowości – Romów, Ukraińców czy Niemców. Wystarczy tylko powiedzieć jedno zdanie krytykujące postawy czy działania środowisk żydowskich a posądzenia o antysemityzm i nietolerancję są pewne.

Żydzi to naród, dla którego los nie był łaskawy. Po zakończonych klęską powstaniach żydowskich, które miały miejsce pod koniec I i na początku II wieku naszej ery, Żydzi zostali wygnani z Palestyny. Od tamtej pory większość narodu żydowskiego żyła w diasporze. To, co z pewnością wyróżnia ten naród od innych, to fakt, że mimo rozproszenia po całym świecie zachował swoją tożsamość i kulturę. To, co ich łączy, niezależnie od miejsca zamieszkania to najczęściej religia. Wielka wiara, jaką nacechowani są Żydzi, pozwoliła im przez ponad dwa tysiące lat zachować swoją kulturę. Naród ten jest bardzo solidarny.

Politycy, media, dyplomaci, tematu Żydów unikają jak ognia. Boją się, aby przypadkiem nie powiedzieć złego słowa o tym narodzie, co zresztą media skrzętnie na pewno by odnotowały i opisały, przypisując owej osobie "antysemityzm" To, co skłoniło mnie do napisania tego artykułu, to moja wędrówka po forum internetowym, gdzie ludzie wyrażają swoje opinie bez żadnych zahamowań, piszą co myślą. Choć te opinie często są skrajne, to na pewno nie można zarzucić im jakiejś zależności, zależności, która z oczywsitych względów występuje w wypowiedziach polityków czy w mediach.

Osoba o nicku Pełny Nienawiści napisała: "Dlaczego Arabów, którzy walczą o swoje ziemie nazywa się terrorystami a Żydów, którzy ich wypędzili ze swoich ziem się głaszcze? Gdzie jest ONZ?" Inny forumowicz napisał: "Wielu ludzi po prostu lituje się nad Żydami wiedząc, przez co oni przeszli w okresie II wojny światowej. Natomiast wielu jest ociemniałych, którzy nie wiedzą, co Żydzi zrobili i robią tym, których uważa się dziś za terrorystów."

Dlaczego w Polsce i nie tylko, temat Żydów jest tematem tabu, dlaczego większość boi się ich krytykować? Może boją się reakcji mediów i przypięcia etykiety antysemity. Broń Boże, nie jestem żadnym antysemitą, tylko uważam, że Żydzi to taki sam naród, jak każdy inny.